Kent County Canine Association

[Susanne]

[color="#1C2837"][size="2"][left]Judge: Mrs Susanne Crossley[/left][left]

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[/left][left][b]BOB - Multi Ch Mifcahs Catch Me If U Can - Mrs M Flack also UTILITY GROUP 2[/left][/b][left]RBOB - Middletune Wildest Dream JW - Mrs F Yorke[/left][left]BP - Middletune Nana Knows Best - Mrs F Yorke also UTILITY PUPPY GROUP 2[/left][left]

[/left][left]JUNIOR DOG OR BITCH Entries: 9 Abs: 2[/left][left]

[/left][left]1st: Middletune Nana Knows Best - Mrs F Yorke

[/left][left]2nd: Bellwaycharm High Flyer for Tilbe - Ms J Beer & Mr G Tilley[/left][left]3rd: Shanjora Sosumi - Mrs A M Billson[/left][left]Res: Chelhama Real McCoy - Mrs VJ Goodwin[/left][left]VHC:Saraten Dare To Dream - Mrs P Barten[/left][left]

[/left][left]POST GRADUATE DOG OR BITCH Entries: 7 Abs: 1[/left][left]

[/left][left]1st: Bellwaycharm High Flyer for Tilbe - Ms J Beer & Mr G Tilley[/left][left]2nd: Broadheath My Prince At Chasewillows - Mrs W Paton[/left][left]3rd: Jimsamroblee Mr Muscles - Mrs D Swift[/left][left]Res: Jimsamroblee Miss Honalulu - Miss MV Coupland[/left][left]VHC:Making Waves For Weatsom - Mrs H & Mr RJ Weighill[/left][left]

[/left][left]OPEN DOG OR BITCH Entries: 7 Abs: 3[/left][left]

[/left][left]1st: Multi Ch Mifcahs Catch Me if U Can - Mrs M Flack[/left][left]2nd Middletune Wildest Dream JW - Mrs F Yorke[/left][left]3rd Chelhama A Grande Finale - Mrs VJ Goodwin[/left][left]Res: Fleur De Lis At Saraten - Mrs P Barten[/left][left]

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I would just like to say a big thank you for a lovely entry today and for coming out in such bad weather too.

Susanne

[maggie]

Thanks for the results Adam, <img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheers:' />





Well done everyone who went <img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheers:' />





Was a nice day even though the weather was bad, but it cleared upto go home.



Hope you both had a good journey back

[huneybunee]

Thanks for the results Adam - A very big well done to Danny & Maggie and to Fiona

[daisydotes]

<img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/claps.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':C' /> <img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/claps.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':C' /> well done Maggie and Danny <img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/claps.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':C' /> <img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/claps.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':C' />

[fluffyangel]

Thanks for the results Suzanne, well done everyone <img src='http://www.shihtzuclub.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheers:' />

[Megan]

do you think its fair to continue to show Champion dogs at open shows. Most of the judges know they are ch. and will not put them down.

[Lucy]

There are several ways of looking at this. Personally, I don't see a problem with it.

Young dogs at open shows are there, primarily, for experience, not just winning. I appreciate that some people show at open shows for a hobby and may feel hard done by if beaten by a champion. Although, I think that's slightly unfair if they've been beaten by a better dog!



Open shows are where new judges cut their teeth. Surely it's important that these judges get the chance to gain experience of champion dogs as well, while learning?

[Adam]

It's a fair question. In this instance the dog isn't (yet at least) a UK Champion but champion dogs are shown at Open shows regularly, especially the breed club shows.

I suppose if you ask a show society committee they might tell you they are glad for entries. If you ask a novice judge you might get a range of views but I suspect on an educational level many would relish the chance to get their hands on a successful dog. If you ask an exhibitor, especially one just starting out, they might feel it unfair.



I've seen champions being put down at open shows too so it isn't always a case of them just showing up and collecting the award.

Personally I tend to feel that you learn more about what makes good dogs by being exposed to them than you can get out of a book and that - on balance - banning champions from open shows would do more harm than good.

[Quarry]

[quote name='Adam' date='10 March 2010 - 01:44 PM' timestamp='1268228684' post='143689']

It's a fair question. In this instance the dog isn't (yet at least) a UK Champion but champion dogs are shown at Open shows regularly, especially the breed club shows.

I suppose if you ask a show society committee they might tell you they are glad for entries. If you ask a novice judge you might get a range of views but I suspect on an educational level many would relish the chance to get their hands on a successful dog. If you ask an exhibitor, especially one just starting out, they might feel it unfair.



I've seen champions being put down at open shows too so it isn't always a case of them just showing up and collecting the award.

Personally I tend to feel that you learn more about what makes good dogs by being exposed to them than you can get out of a book and that - on balance - banning champions from open shows would do more harm than good.

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[maggie]

Alot of people who attend Open Shows do so because they enjoy showing there its friendly less formal than championship shows.



I agree showing champions at open shows is a good way for judges to go over a dog and gain hands on experience



Entering a Champion one has to remember it can go one of two ways the same as showing any dog that is entered plus you are putting the dog up to be knocked and if they are so be it.



I remember competing against Val with a dog that I think had 2 CCs with 2 puppies I bred a dog and a bitch and the dog I bred won BOB



I have entered shows under breed judges who need the numbers and if they want to progress up the judging ladder its important to have the numbers, they are also a good way for dogs to practice and not get used to not being around shows.



At this show and the few I have attended in the last year I have only been able to show Danny all be it he is a Champion in Europe and has as Adam says 2 CCs here, Tammy has the same 2 CCs here and awards in Europe plus she hates open shows, the puppies are to young and it would have been unethical to take Roger



Maggie